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What's making a "rucka-rucka-rucka" noise when I'm turning at full lock?
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When I'm parking or making a tight turn, I hear a sort of rucka-rucka noise from the front of the car. Is there something wrong?

Yup! Your CV (Constant Velocity) joints at the outer ends of your half-shafts are worn. They may not be worn out, but they're at least thinking about quitting! The noise will gradually get worse, and show up even when you're not turning at full lock. The only cure is a half-shaft replacement, not all that expensive for Hondas.

Incidentally, when looking over a used Honda, or most front-wheel-drive cars for that matter, ALWAYS take the car to a quiet space in a parking lot, roll the windows down, turn slowly through a full circle in both directions, and listen for that tell-tale chucking, rucka-ruck serenade.

How do I prevent the rucka-rucka noise from starting in the first place?



Why are my lugnuts so hard to undo?
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Two possible reasons:

  1. Moisture on the threads or the angled mating surfaces between nut and wheel. If you changed your tires in the rain and water got on the lugs, or you dropped the nuts in a puddle, rust will later form, which can make the nuts very hard to undo without an impact wrench. If at all possible, try to keep rain off the lugs and nuts, or wipe them off before putting the nuts on. Rust can also form simply through disuse. If the wheels are not removed for several years, you can get a simlar effect to having changed a flat tire in the rain.
  2. Overtorquing. Garages are notorious for applying varying torque amounts to the nuts, unless you insist (and watch to make sure) they use a hand torque wrench. You may later notice that the nuts do not all require the same amount of force to remove the next time you take them off yourself.
    Sometimes overtorquing is caused by tiny-brained owners who think they have to jump on the wrench to tighten the lug nuts. You don't need 300 lbs on them, and that much may snap the studs. All you (usually; check your manual) need is 80 ft lbs. Notice how short the wrench is that came with your spare tire kit? Its length (or lack thereof) was determined in order to allow you to easily apply the correct tightening torque by hand. Pretend you're lifting your ten year-old kid. That's all the pulling force you need.

A dab of anti-seize on the stud threads is quite effective in keeping the nuts free, but what kind and how much is the tricky part. Lubing the lug nuts is a very contentious subject, with proponents and opponents galore. It is true that certain kinds of lubricants lower friction to an unacceptably low level, resulting in overtorquing and broken studs. It is probably for the reason of unpredictable variability that Honda does not recommend the use of lubrication on the lug nuts, but prefers that you leave them dry. Honda's torque figures intend the use of dry studs.

Having said that though, light use of a copper or aluminum-based anti-seize is generally OK, so long as you lower the specified nut torque by 5 or 10%.



How do I get those silly little screws out so I can remove my brake rotors?
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Aren't they a pain in the neck? They go all the way through the hub assembly and stick out the other side, so the ends usually rust. It's difficult, but you can get to their backsides with penetrating oil. Still, a device known as a hand impact driver is usually the thing for this. Hand impact drivers are available for about $20 and vigorous application of a middling heavy hammer to one of these usually does the job. Be sure and get a 3/8 inch Phillips tip for the wrench though, not the skinny little 1/4 inch ones that are intended for multiple-bit screwdriver sets. The screws are a #3 Phillips too, don't try a #2 or you'll strip them.

One trick that works sometimes is to simply insert the screwdriver into the hex, put some twisting force on it, then repeatedly strike the end with an 8-oz (half pound) hammer. This approximates the function of the hand impact driver without having to make a trip to the hardware store.

I'm told seating of the Phillips screwdriver's head is enhanced it you grind just a touch off its tip. This helps ensure the sides of the driver's head are pressed firmly into the screw's slots before the tip bottoms in the screw.

If worst comes to worst and you do strip them, you'll have to drill the little suckers out of there. All they do is hold the rotors in place until you put the wheel on, so I suppose you could even not bother to replace them, but if a garage did that, you'd think they were pretty sloppy wouldn't you?

If you do decide not to replace the little screws, you should be aware that each time you remove the caliper, the rotor will be free to tilt on an angle on the hub. What happens then is that flakes of rust, grains of sand and dirt and the like can fall between the rotor and the hub. And when you button everything back up again, the rotor will be crooked. So if you've just done the brakes and all of a sudden you get a brake vibration, pull everything apart and clean the hub and back of the rotor until they're both spotless.




My Check Engine light has come on. How do I retrieve the ECU fault code?

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Depends on when your car was built.  Prior to 1996, Honda used several methods of error code reading.
All the codes meant the same thing on all cars though, so Code 1 was always an "Oxygen Sensor" regardless of the car on which the error popped up.

(As an aside, these error codes are properly called Diagnostic Trouble Codes, or DTC's.)

'95 and prior vehicles:
These cars use a system whereby either the Check Engine light or the ECU's LED will blink a numerical code at you if you perform just the right series of steps first.
This PDF document has a handy table showing what models and what years required what method of code reading. The Honda/Acura section starts on page 13.
You'll note that some cars require a "tool" to initiate the code readout. You can just use a bent paper clip as the "tool". The "tool" is used to short together the pins of the 2-pin Service Check Connector.

'96 and up vehicles:

Fault code retrieval can be accomplished on 1996 and later Honda (OBD-II) models with the standard Diagnostic Link Connector (DLC) and an OBD-II reader, available at just about any auto parts place these days. Places like AutoZone and PartSource will read your error codes for free, so you don't really even have to buy the reader. 
This page has the location of your DLC.

Some 1996 to 1999 vehicles retained the old-style "blinking Check Engine light" readout as indicated in the PDF above. However, the light-blink method is only a (very) crude approximation of the error stored by the '96-'99 ECU. I do not recommend relying on the blink method. The DLC method will be much more detailed.

Now what does the code mean? Click here.


How do I reset my Check Engine light?
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After reading a fault code, it's better to record the code number (Diagnostic Trouble Code, or DTC), then reset the engine's ECU/ECM and wait to see if it comes on again with the same fault code, rather than go rushing off to the dealer for repairs. The dealer is probably going to do just that himself anyway. A great many errors are transient and do not recur. If the light comes back on with the same or related code, then you get it looked at.

A note: the idea of "transient" errors (mentioned just above) is less relevant these days. Prior to '96, the Check Engine light would illuminate if the ECU/ECM received sufficiently bad signals (or no signal) from one or more of its inputs. With OBD-II, the light generally comes on once the ECM determines that the engine has exceeded federal emissions limits by 150% under specific conditions, as calculated by the ECM. This system is more reliable in reporting actual problems rather than transients.

The crude way to reset the ECU/ECM is to just disconnect the battery for a minute or so. A more sophisticated way is to pull the fuse that supplies power to the ECU. On most cars this is the Backup (or Backup/Hazard) fuse, a 7.5 amp (or 10A) fuse located in the under-hood fuse/relay box. The ECMs on the very newest cars have their own fuse, duly labeled as such. It's usually 15A.
Caution! Removing this fuse also removes power from your clock and radio! You're going to have to reset the time on the clock, and you'd better have the anti-theft code for the radio handy or you'll be sorry!

If your car is 1996 or newer, you can use an OBD-II code reader to clear the codes. This will avoid pulling battery cables or fuses, so your radio won't lock up. However, your car's computers will have done a lot of work setting themselves up, and resetting the Check Engine light  by any method will erase all their stored adjustments. You will not be able to take your car in for an emissions test until the computer has finished setting itself back up again. Depending on your driving habits, this could take a few days, or up to a month.
In addition, the very latest cars have computers that "learn" how to set up the automatic transmission and the idle speed. These settings will also be erased and will take time to "relearn", so the car may feel a little funny until the "relearn" is accomplished.



A very useful list of all known ECU error codes, OBD-II and before.
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(As an aside, these error codes are properly called Diagnostic Trouble Codes, or DTC's.)

A PDF of Honda's official OBD-II DTC list (from 1996 to 2003 model-years) is found here.
Honda has, since 2003, added more codes to that list to accommodate tighter emissions standards, but I do not yet have those.

Honda's 1995 model-year and earlier, pre-OBD-II, codes are found here.
The 1995 and earlier codes listed are all specific to Honda. No pre-OBD-II codes correlate from one automaker to another. This was one of the reasons OBD-II was adopted. "Mandated" ODB-II codes are supposed to be the same from maker to maker.
 
There are two basic types of OBD-II DTC's:
There are a number of online lists that give every single EPA DTC that exists. These can be misleading. Not all automakers use all codes, and there can be subtle differences in the exact text definition of each code, even within the mandated code number list.  The list I give above gives ONLY the codes Honda uses. If your 2003-or-earlier engine computer returns a code that does not exist in the Honda lists above, then either you've miscounted the blinks, the code reader is not completely compatible with your system, or the ECU is damaged (highly unlikely).
 


Should I ever replace my car's computer (ECU / ECM)?
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In a single word, NO!!!

Of the million or so vehicles American Honda and Honda Canada sell each year, maybe five or six (yes, that's right: 5 or 6) come back with actual bad computers. All the rest of the returned ECMs test good by Honda, and were replaced in error by owners or technicians.

Unless the computer has got damaged by flood, other moisture intrusion, impact, or serious electrical overload, the probability of the computer being bad is virtually zero. Honda computers are exceedingly reliable. Do not waste your money replacing them. Your problem almost certainly lies elsewhere.

You wouldn't believe it, but I get more contentious email about this one small section than any other part of this site. People disgree with me more on this one subject than anything else. My sources for the assertions I list are a number of individuals with several decades of high-volume work on Hondas and other Japanese cars. Some deal almost exclusively with new cars, some mostly with used (sometimes VERY used) cars. These sources indicate to me that Honda (and Toyota) engine emissions computers almost never just "go bad".

It has been stated to me by these professionals, quite emphatically, that the ECU is the LAST thing by far that ever goes wrong with a Honda's engine control system. I have also been told that an amazing number of people blame that mysterious black box for just about everything that goes wrong with their car, probably because they have no idea how it works.
A few anecdotes do not a trend make. I cannot use a few emailed anecdotal accounts of ECU failure to go against what the pro's tell me.

There are some auto manufacturers who are notorious in the trade for installing ECUs with poor durability, but Honda is not one of them. Remember that the ECU/ECM is fundamentally an emissions control computer. Honda has been "green" since the early '70s, with its landmark CVCC engine. Honda takes emissions and quality very seriously, and commits appropriate resources to both.

Now, there is an important point to be made here... There are two primary telltales for a healthy ECU/ECM:
  1. The behavior of the Check Engine light. If, when you first turn the ignition key to "II", the Check Engine light comes on for two seconds, the fuel pump runs during those two seconds, then the light and fuel pump shut off after that and the light stays off, the ECU is FINE. Whatever's wrong with your car, it's not the ECU.
  2. The presence of an error code behind the light. If the Check Engine light comes on solid and never goes off,  comes on while the car is running, or takes a long time to go off, and there is no error code stored in the ECU, the ECU MAY be faulty. However, other problems can cause a no-code condition, such as pinched, corroded or crossed wires, which is why I say "MAY". You have to do some primary diagnostics before replacing the ECU.
So there you have it: if the ECU was bad,  you'd have clues. If those clues are not present, look somewhere else for your problem. Even if the clues are there, you STILL need to check for things like a disconnected ECU ground wire, missing engine ground strap, pinched wires, crossed wires, that sort of thing. These can all cause symptoms similar to a bad ECU.

Finally, if you're the sort who is comfortable removing the top from your ECU and inspecting the guts, you can probably use that as a way of telling if your ECU is bad. From my understanding, failed components are visually very obvious, exhibiting signs like leakage and bursting. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can likely replace those components (provided the circuit board is not compromised), which are commonly and cheaply available from electronics stores the world over.




Can I stop my power antenna from raising when I'm just playing a tape or CD?
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Sure! Just install a switch in the power lead that goes to the antenna motor.



How to fix loose fuses
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Honda fuses are generally reliable but occasionally, especially in an older car, they can become intermittent because they are making a poor connection in the fuseholder. Pulling the fuse to check it often cures the problem, because re-insertion cleans oxidation off the fuse contacts, but a more permanent fix is to bend the fuse tangs just a bit with a pair of pliers, so they make a tighter connection. Turn the fuse so you are looking at the tangs end-on, and twist them through no more than ten or fifteen degrees, so they look like this:

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That's enough to make them behave properly.



My car makes a buzzing noise at certain RPMs
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If you're lucky you may just have a loose heat shield on the exhaust or even just a loose muffler clamp. Or you may be a victim of the infamous Honda "A-pipe" rattle!

It seems that many Honda exhaust systems have a double pipe near the engine, with an inner and outer tube. This is in the interest of keeping the exhaust gasses nice and hot for the catalyic converter. Unfortunately, the welds on the inside don't always hold, and you can get a loose inner pipe rattling at certain times when the engine speed matches its natural point of resonance.

How to cure it? Well you could replace the pipe assembly, but that's expensive. A cheaper way is to attack the pipe with a hacksaw and a brazing torch. Simply cut two slots crosswise about a quarter inch apart, 1/3 of the way through the outer pipe. Then with a punch, ding the narrow strip thus created inward until it touches the inner pipe. Fill the hole with brazing metal, making sure some of it brazes the strip to the inner pipe. Make sure you don't leave any holes that will leak exhaust gasses.

Honda actually makes something called a "buzz kit" for certain vehicles. This kit contains all the gaskets and fixing bolts for the exhaust system. Apparently these can work loose and wear out over time, causing a sort of system-wide noise problem. I found this out by reading Click and Clack's "Dear Tom & Ray" Archive.



What's that brrrr-click I hear when the key is turned to ON but before I try to start?
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That's just the fuel pump running. It runs for two seconds when the ignition is first turned to ON (II) but not to START (III).

Fuel pump operation is determined by the PGM-FI Main Relay, in conjunction with the engine's computer (ECU/ECM).




At about 10mph I hear a BzzzzzzzT noise from under the hood.
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That's the ABS pump charging up. It waits until the car is travelling about 10mph before it pumps up its pressure accumulator.




What can an aftermarket cold air intake do for me?
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Increase horsepower? Well maybe. We've seen all sorts of claims to that effect. But it seems to me the most useful function of a true cold air intake is just to keep you from losing the horsepower you already have in hot weather. The cooler and denser the air coming in your intake, the more power you're going to get, and if your engine is drawing its air from under the hood and behind a hot radiator and it's 90 in the shade outside, you're definitely losing some performance.

There are two kinds of aftermarket intakes however. Sometimes you see them called 'wetlands' and 'drylands' style intakes. A true cold air intake draws its air from underneath a fender or from somewhere ahead of the rad. There are even some stock intake systems on Hondas that do this. Sometimes aftermarket versions of this 'drylands' setup is a little risky, if there's a possibility that large quantities of water can reach the intake area. Water does NOT compress like air, and inhaling liquid water in any quantity is disasterous for your engine! The 'wetlands' setup avaids this problem, but therefor usually isn't a true cold air intake.

One thing either will do however is change the way your engine sounds. Honda stock air intakes have resonator boxes that attenuate the noises generated by your engine as it breathes. Cold air intakes do no such thing. You'll hear a distinct change in engine note at 5000 RPM on a VTEC engine as the IAB valve opens and the short intake stacks come into play. Some mistake that for the VTEC cams kicking in, but it's really the sound of resonance in a tuned intake system.



How can I remove decals/stickers/pinstripes without damaging the paint?
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The pros have special tools for this purpose. An example is here:
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/paint---body-equipment---supplies-exterior-interior-painting--finishing-and-detailing-pin-stripe-rem.html

For the home mechanic, newsgroup consensus seems to be that a sharp blade and a modicum of heat is the answer. Anything from a parking lot on a hot sunny day to the application of a hair dryer to soften the glue, then some careful scraping with a knife-edge, razor blade, or even an old credit card edge sliced off on a sharp angle. One post even suggested a fingernail would do if you get the heat right. Use isopropanol or rubbing alcohol to clean up traces of glue afterward.

Regardless of the method used, there is a high risk of scarring the clear coat. You may have to have the line professionally buffed out afterwards



How do I "roll" a fender to accept larger tires?
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Body shops that do custom work have machines that do a professional job of this, but if your oversize tires aren't too big, you can just use a baseball bat. No, you don't take whacks at the fenders with a bat, you use it like a prybar, resting it on the top of the tire and prying gently upward along the inside of the wheelwell, folding the metal back. There once was a really excellent web page on the subject, complete with pictures, on the now defunct VTEC-Net.


Can you supercharge a VTEC engine?
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Here's some advice from Gabe Gardner on the subject-

"Yes and no. You can run low levels of boost (6 psi and less) and be
ok. But if you want to run higher boost you must do the basic stuff
(beef up the bottom end). But the H22A1 has some other stuff that
needs to be stiffened up too. Here is an little snip from
www.hondaprelude.com and the recent discussions on blocks for turbo
charging."

"The 93-96 VTEC blocks are solid decks and the 97+ are open deck. There
might be some 97 TECS that are solid if Honda had left over blocks from
96 but atll the 5th gen are supposed to be open deck. I was told by a
friend that race SCCA and uses the H22As and he says he has to hunt
down pre 96 VTEC motors because he does not want to use the open deck
blocks. But even if you have an open deck, you can have a block guard
installed or just get a 96 motor and built it up while you drive you
car around with the original motor."


"H22A blocks have had a "solid block" design since their inception in
'93, as well as the Carbon-matrix liners. The liners are actually
Carbon fibre 'filler' mixed with poly resins to make the liner. The
aluminum (for the block) is actually poured around these liners. The
H22A motor prelude VTEC) and the C32A (NSX) are the only Honda blocks
in production that utilize that liner."



What's "Rice"?
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The epithet "Rice Boy" is not the racial slur it may sound like. It refers to the car owners of any ethnic origin who modify their Japanese or Korean car in certain tacky ways. Rice Boys are poseurs who accessorize their car, (all too often a Honda), to make it look fast, without actually increasing its performance.

The Rice thing appears to waning of late, despite the number of tricked-out "tuner" cars you see at shows. I read recently in the paper that the "tuner" market is down to about a tenth of what it was ten years ago. This quote was from a fellow in charge of the Guild of Automotive Restorers in Canada. (The Guild operates a sister shop called Vampire, which does "tuners", customs and hot-rodding.)

Rice is;

A 'fartcan' aftermarket muffler with coffee can-sized chrome tip.

An elaborate spoiler like that excrescence on the back of some early Hyundai Tiburons.

Having a tach with a shift light in an automatic.

A DOHC-VTEC sticker on a Civic HX

A Type-R badge when you haven't got a type R

Quick-blink turn signals

Clear tailight lenses

Springs cut to lower the car for no other purpose than appearance

"HoNdA r00Lz" decal covering half of rear window

A plastic racing-style gas cap sticker stuck on top of your plain old gas filler door

Oversize wheels and tires just for show.



Does ABS help you stop sooner?
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Sometimes, but don't count on it. What it does do is allow you to steer and brake at the same time. In the past, people learning performance driving were taught that you should never try to steer and brake at the same time. A locked up wheel just won't make the car turn, it has to be rotating to change the vehicle's direction. Mr Clumsy Average Driver, in a panic situation usually tries to steer AND brake however, and the ABS system is intended to help him get away with it.

The problem is that few owners of new cars actually use their ABS. Some have even got into accidents the first time they were in an emergancy braking situation because when they heard the ABS chatter and felt the pedal pulse under their foot, they panicked and lifted their foot.

So one of the things you should do if the car you just bought has ABS, is find an empty parking lot someplace, preferably slick with rain or even better ice, and try out your ABS. Get used to keeping your foot down on that chattering brake pedal, and find out how much it takes to trigger the ABS. I drove a rental car once whose ABS went into action at the slightest excuse, usually for no good reason. It pays to learn your ABS system's features and foibles before you really need them.

You can find more extensive pages on the subject here.



Can you turn off ABS?
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On some Hondas and Acuras, yes you can, without resorting to pulling fuses or connectors. If you feel that under certain conditions you're better off without ABS, just leave your parking brake up a notch from its fully released position before starting the car. Not enough to engage the brake, just enough to light the dashboard warning light. Start the car and drive away. After a minute or so the ABS warning light will light, indicating that the system has failed its startup check and is inoperative. It will stay offline until the next time you start the car. Once the system is off you can return the park brake to its fully released position.

Apparently this trick does not work on very recent Hondas.


How come my rear window defroster won't work, or is on ALL the time?
My windshield wipers won't work on the "intermittent" setting any more.Why?
Why does the car beep at me in a strange, apparently random manner?
My car is exhibiting minor, but strange, electrical problems of all kinds
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All of the above have to do with a sophisticated yet diabolical device known as an Integrated Control Unit, or ICU, and all you can do is replace it (unless you're a confident electro-whiz).

The ICU handles all sorts of odd jobs, from the stuff mentioned above to side-marker lights to the oil pressure warning light to lots of other stuff. Problem is, Honda produced a certain number of these units with some defective/inadequate electronic components. This ICU is used in all Honda products, probably with slight differences from model to model.

I'd like to say I was the one to discover the cause of all this, but I wasn't. The Generation 2 Integra Club is the source for these fixes.
Two threads here, one having to do with the exact nature of the problem
http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127170
and one having to do with replacement (and a link to associated photographs at ImageStation):
http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?mode=hybrid&t=56089

(Unfortunately, you have to register as a member before you can view the photographs at ImageStation.)

The ICU is located behind the driver's kick panel, and in many vehicles is covered by a fuse box. It is not difficult to remove, but is very fiddly and time-consuming, since space and wiring are short and connectors large.

However, the cure is the same: Either replace the capacitors or replace the ICU.


How do I get the dash apart to install an aftermarket radio?
Do I need to cut up my factory wiring to install an aftermarket radio?
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This excellent site: http://www.installdr.com/ has lots of great info. Too bad they don't cover more cars...
For installation, click on Install it Yourself, then follow your nose. The last thing you want to do is wreck your dash trying to figure out exactly where Honda put those frighteningly fragile clips that hold most of your interior together.

As for the wiring, you don't want to tear up your factory harness, and luckily you don't have to. You can connect your new radio with something called an aftermarket harness, which is an extension between your OEM harness and the new radio. It plugs right into your existing factory connectors, and solders together between the OEM connectors and the aftermarket radio's connectors. Most car stereo places sell these inexpensively for most popular cars. Combined with a wiring diagram (or a bit of work with a multitester), the aftermarket harness makes the job as easy as it can be.


Last updated Oct17/07